« Assholes home jacked my Alfa | Main | New photo album: Breva 1100 designs »
April 10, 2005
Moto Guzzi Breva 1100 test ride at Mandello
That's right! I had the privilege to test ride the big Breva at Mandello del Lario last Friday. Unfortunately the weather was totally terrible - it had been raining all day and by the time in the afternoon I got the bike the rain was absolutely pouring from the sky.
"Great test report" might not be the right wording to describe what comes out when we combine heavy rain, unknown environment, unfamiliar new bike and my lack of riding experience in rain. But anyway, I rode the bike in less than optimal conditions and what you'll read below are real subjective results of that riding experience.
Here she is (pic on the left), a bit battered press bike waiting for me, under the wings of the famous factory eagle. I had plenty of time to check the bike while waiting for the paperwork and noticed that some hooligan press people had already given her hard time - the signs on the rear tire were more than clear. Sniff, I sweared the weather even more.
Then I fired the v-twin and couldn't care less about the weather - what a soundtrack! Euro-regulated it is, but it sounds awesome still! Not too loud, but a clearly self confident, proud tone, exactly like the Guzzis from the past. I think my hands were trembling now - still waiting for Giorgio to bring those papers...
The chromed decorative "strip" at the side of the tank, the item I critized when I first saw the bike in real life (at the exhibition one week ago, see below) seems to be a good looking quality part in these production bikes. The bike on the exhibition was obviously some kind of pre-production model - so please ignore my text from the exhibition.
Compared to my 750 Breva, there is a lot of useful space under the the saddle. Two separate boxes, one for bike papers plus e.g. for emergency rain suit, and the bigger one, into which I could easily fit my camera equipment - with a lot of remaining space. It's not a scooter though, so you need to store your helmet and a six pack somewhere else.
Eventually I signed the papers, clicked the visor down and hit the road. I'm not one of the world's most talented riders and I value my life, so I took it Carefully (yes, with capital C). Even so, my first feelings, only after riding the small streets of the Mandello down to the shore to take some shots:
1) the gearbox, the clutch and the engine work together like a dream. A two phase change from first to second exists no more. The engine could probably survive with a box with three gears - it doesn't hesitate no matter whatever gear you use.
2) The handlebar feels wide, making town manouvering easy. But squeezing into the narrow gaps between cars feels more worrying than with the 750 as the whole bike feels much wider.
3) The suspension is very comfortable. I could even go as far as saying that it is incredibly comfortable. Yet remember that the front and rear are both adjustable and I have no idea how this bike was set up by the factory experts.
Now, why's that trimmed athlete in the wet suit posing in the above picture!?? And where are the girls from the beach?
On the highway to Lecco (the pics above are from there) the Breva felt relaxed and steady. There were absolutely no wibes at all at the steady 100 km/h and the engine was pulling really effortlessly. Unfortunately the rain was far too bad for me to test any higher speed cruising. I could only imagine what a great touring bike this would be with a windshield and side panniers. Maybe some day...
As a summary I'd say that my expectations were high and I was not disappointed. 1100 Breva feels and looks like a solid, well built bike which radiates positive Guzzi-feeling. And it is easy and comfortable to ride. Should be a good recipe, non?
Ok, enough blah blah for one day, I'll post more material and pictures from inside the factory and the production lines etc soon.
Ciao!
Posted by Pexi | Permalink
Comments
Is it very recently carbon copy ? Already saw the but info on this locality [url=http://just-info.freehostia.com]Watch[/url]
Posted by: advedopomyday | Apr 2, 2009 7:54:11 AM
Pexi,
You know me from the Wildguzzi board as frans belgium. Based on your report, other reports and my own test ride, I ordered a Breva 1100 two weeks ago.
Best Guzzi I ever rode (and I rode one or two).
I'll keep the board posted.
Posted by: frans | Oct 13, 2005 12:01:21 PM
I'm 6'5", 240 lbs., 34" inseam. Am new to riding. Might the 1100 be too much for a first bike? Is it tall enough for me? I have the patience to learn how to ride properly. I have stradled the 750 and it seemed way too small. Thanks for your comments.
***************
Pexi replies: I guess that sizewise the 1100 should be ok, but only way to really know is to try it yourself. It's an easy bike to ride, so if you take it easily and carefully, I don't see why you wouldn't survive with it as a beginner. Just admit that you're not the fastest on the road, respect the bike and like you said - have patience and you'll do alright. The 1100 is a heavy bike (at least for me it is - some others may laugh to this comment), so slow speed maneuveurs might be a bit challenging, until the talent develops. Your own weight and size will help here remarkably - I think.
Posted by: William | May 6, 2005 8:22:00 AM
Hello,
Regarding Guzzi dealers in Paris, here is one:
Moto Bel'
85 rue Victor Hugo
92300 LEVALLOIS
tél 01 47 31 71 33
I have been shopping around for a Breva 1100 and got in touch with them. They have been around as Guzzi reps for a long while and have a good reputation.
Cheers,
Constantin
Paris
Posted by: constantin | May 1, 2005 11:57:07 AM
Hello Philippe
I went to one dealer here in Paris. He seems to be looks very gentle, enthusiastic too and probably professional in a tiny shop. But, that looks very different from BMW dealers.
You know the problem : the Breva is not a cheap machine so that I want it always "ready to start" and I don't want to spend my time waiting for parts or have any problem with the dealer. I'm worrying for the MG dealers reputation...
When will you have your Breva ?
Posted by: Hugues | Apr 29, 2005 5:49:00 PM
Hugues,
to be frank with you, I don't know much about parts availability. All I know about the dealer network is this Grenoble dealer who is quite enthousiastic and optimistic about MG.
The Breva 1100 is a clear sign that MG is willing to increase its market share, especialy towards BMW. I cannot imagine that they would invest so much on the design of this new bike without thinking of enhancing customer support.
Future will tell, of course.
Amicalement,
- Philippe
Posted by: Philippe | Apr 29, 2005 9:57:16 AM
Philippe,
I've just read that you're in Grenoble and you've bought a 1100 Breva. I'm not far to decide me as I tried it in Paris a few days ago.
Nevertheless, I'm worrying about the Guzzi dealers. As this bike is not very cheap, I'm looking for information about Guzzi dealrs here in France. Do you have any information ? Do you think we can easily find any pieces for fixing in case of trouble ?
Merci !
Posted by: Hugues | Apr 28, 2005 8:55:56 PM
Terve Pexi,
Thanks to your road test (and to quite a few other positive feedbacks I've found on internet), I just signed for a Breva 1100 today. Could not even test it (they don't have any here in Grenoble/France), but I tried a 750 and it was already great, so I really look forward to riding the 1100.
I felt it was time to replace my K75 (after more than 100000 kms, but I could not find anything that would suit my (very basic) needs at BMW these days.
Many thanks also for the great pics of Tampere! My K75 took me there some 2 years ago, and that was a great experience.
Kiitos,
- Philippe
Posted by: Philippe | Apr 27, 2005 7:54:07 PM
Hello Pexi and Everyone,
As I recently said, I've just tried the new Breva 1100 in Paris.
I've never understood how unefficient engineers are to be unable to build efficient motorbikes...because the bikes industry in not an high tech industry.
I'm waiting for a bike such the new Breva for ...years ! That should be simple to build a bike. What do the bikers need ?
1.an engine : 1100 cm3, the new guzzi has it (powerfull enough to have some fun but not too much to launch me through a wall or a car);
2.a modern (and clean) transmission via a clutch (I hate to have my fingers dirty due to oil and transmission coming from dark ages);
3.brakes : those ones are even a little violent (but they were more or less news);
4.a comfortable position (I don't like to be as a frog on my -supersport- bike);
5.a nice look (I'm not fond of the "asian eyes" of japanese bikes or the fat and awfull look of german bikes - that's a latin bike, and it looks very nice ...others drivers seemed to agree with me looking the "red machine"...);
6.a bike plenty of simple but efficient ideas such as a significant tank (I don’t want to stop every 200 km) and a "normal" ergonomy;
7.a price (I would like to say more or less acceptable due to the low quality of others productions).
I don't believe I have to wait so much time to have....a bike, a real bike.
For the rest, Pexi is right.
I was a little surprised by the brakes (violent) and I had some troubles during few kilometers (in town) with the gearbox (finding wrong neutral point), probably due to my unexperience with this bike.
That's a large bike too and not too much a "bicycle" comparing with an 600/750cm3 : probably question of experience too.
I'm not someone very tall and I can't have my two feet on ground when the machine stopped.
Despite these weaknesses, it worths the price (much more than competitors such a Bmw or what else .. I can't see any other bike).
I have just some doubts about the quality of dealers knowned to be not that good.....
Posted by: | Apr 20, 2005 11:03:22 PM
I saw the "big" breva here in Gothenburg in January and to be honest I didn't look twice. I don't like the looks. If I want something that bulky its hard to beat BMW, pricey it is to.
Next to it was the 750 Breva and I really like that, very beautiful, nice proportions.
Last week I finally had a testride on V750ie.
Weight and power is equal to my last bike, Aprilia Pegaso, and thats what it felt like.
It was very comfortable and the gearchange was actually good. I had read about "bicycle handling" and was somewhat dissapointed, the pegaso was easier to handle in the curves.
Anyway I didn't want to take it back to the dealer so I guess I liked it. Still a candidate for next bike.
Pexi, I see that you have information from the service manual. Maybe you can help me with data that I haven't found. I'd like to know valvesize and valvelift.
Looking forward to more nice pictures on your blog.
BR
Jonas
Posted by: Jonas | Apr 11, 2005 10:04:58 PM











